Real F1 2014 Season - Off Topic Discussion

GTClub_wajdi said:
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Awesome comparison. I can't get enough of looking at those beautiful machines. This season can't come soon enough!
 
Wow... Ferrari has way less radiator size, they discovered something about engine temps and other teams not, Sauber also use small radiator size and admission conduct and uses Ferrari engine.

I also read that has 50HP more than Renault. Interesting, ¿more power and less temp problems? sounds good for Ferrari engines for now.
 
Empty Box said:
Also - F14T. AKA, FIAT. And these ugly ass cars - I have to wonder, is the whole of F1 trolling everyone? lol
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Uh, didnt even realize that, you are right, Why the hell would you name a Ferrari after a flipping FIAT (i know FIAT owns ferrari but that is just disgrace)
 
Esteve Rueda said:
Wow... Ferrari has way less radiator size, they discovered something about engine temps and other teams not, Sauber also use small radiator size and admission conduct and uses Ferrari engine.

I also read that has 50HP more than Renault. Interesting, ¿more power and less temp problems? sounds good for Ferrari engines for now.
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Now that is some extreme speculation right there, hm, but from those "new regulations" videos i thought that the radiator nostrils are given very specifically, and on those videos they did look exactly like the ones on McLaren, getting more and more confused now

Also there is a maximum amout of HP those engines have in the regulations, so if Ferrari engine has 50 HP more than Renaults, it means the Renault is incapable of making a unit that is reaching that limit (i believe the upper limit is 650 HP now?)
 
MikeeCZ said:
Now that is some extreme speculation right there, hm, but from those "new regulations" videos i thought that the radiator nostrils are given very specifically, and on those videos they did look exactly like the ones on McLaren, getting more and more confused now

Also there is a maximum amout of HP those engines have in the regulations, so if Ferrari engine has 50 HP more than Renaults, it means the Renault is incapable of making a unit that is reaching that limit (i believe the upper limit is 650 HP now?)
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In theory, during quali trim they can produce as much as 680-690 bhp from engine alone (Extremely efficient engine could be like this... on paper) however I would say it would be nearly impossible to maintain during the race. 620-640 should be maximum that those engines will produce during the race. 600 is too low for the engine alone. I guess 840-850 BHP (whole power unit) during the quali laps isn't that far-fetched ;)
 
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Ok thx, next big question is reliability, as i have also heard that in first couple races, finishing race will be so rare that it will be almost sure that everybody who finishes will be at point position, but that i suppose wont be that extreme
 
MikeeCZ said:
Now that is some extreme speculation right there, hm, but from those "new regulations" videos i thought that the radiator nostrils are given very specifically, and on those videos they did look exactly like the ones on McLaren, getting more and more confused now
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Radiator nostrils are not regulated to be way bigger than other years, some sources said teams would need to use bigger radiator and admission conducts to avoid overheating and to improve reliability. And seems Ferrari power unit is better in his aspect despite having more HP, or they are risking so much. But I think they found something.

I opted to believe Ferrari found something others not, before to believe they are risking their engines in race. And i say this because is happening something strange just now, RedBull (Renault engine) is presenting complaints to the FIA saying his turbo is generating dangerous sparks. They ask to change engine weight regulations to let 4Kg more, 149Kg and not 145Kg as is regulated now to let them to use a "cover".

The suspicious thing is... didn't they see the problem in 2 years designing and testing their engines and power units? why do they present complaints close to begin official tests?

My theory (well, a friend one) is they want to modify their engines to improve them and they can't now because obvious reasons, they can't modify It now, and modifying rules they could introduce such thing they need to improve.

I do not trust sparks issue... no one team complained about safety problems before since new regultaions were announce and they tested so hard during 2 years for sure, and for now Mercedes and Ferrari said "no" to modify weight rules.

All are speculations, and me and people talked about this can be totally wrong, but maybe Renault need something they can not introduce because It's late.


EDIT: now Mercedes also complaint, this is weird, Mercedes was with Ferrari before in weight changes.
 
Esteve Rueda said:
Radiator nostrils are not regulated to be way bigger than other years, some sources said teams would need to use bigger radiator and admission conducts to avoid overheating and to improve reliability. And seems Ferrari power unit is better in his aspect despite having more HP, or they are risking so much. But I think they found something.

I opted to believe Ferrari found something others not, before to believe they are risking their engines in race. And i say this because is happening something strange just now, RedBull (Renault engine) is presenting complaints to the FIA saying his turbo is generating dangerous sparks. They ask to change engine weight regulations to let 4Kg more, 149Kg and not 145Kg as is regulated now to let them to use a "cover".

The suspicious thing is... didn't they see the problem in 2 years designing and testing their engines and power units? why do they present complaints close to begin official tests?

My theory (well, a friend one) is they want to modify their engines to improve them and they can't now because obvious reasons, they can't modify It now, and modifying rules they could introduce such thing they need to improve.

I do not trust sparks issue... no one team complained about safety problems before since new regultaions were announce and they tested so hard during 2 years for sure, and for now Mercedes and Ferrari said "no" to modify weight rules.

All are speculations, and me and people talked about this can be totally wrong, but maybe Renault need something they can not introduce because It's late.


EDIT: now Mercedes also complaint, this is weird, Mercedes was with Ferrari before in weight changes.
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This is completely disgusting.
It is 4 years now that FIA permits Red Cans to literally rape the rules each and every time they need to solve their problems.
Six or seven fuel tanks and pumps, change the tires because they don't like and who knows how many other tricks.

Unbearable.
 
To do changes in engine rules all three engine constructors need to agree and vote yes, if only one say no, they can't change, or they should not... Ferrari I hope will not agree.

They did the work again (like with begining 2013 tyres), and I hope rules will be the same and will not happen the same as in 2013. Yes, safety and bla, bla, bla, if your engine It's not safe, do It safe, Ferrari can, why you not? maybe It's not about safety :rolleyes:

As said, I really hope this will not be like 2013 tires (when some teams did the work and others not, not exactly the same because was a fault of Pirelli too about safety, but... Ferrari and others teams did a good work with those bad tires and did the car for them)
 
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I wanted to discuss this with people from rF2, not rF1, as most of these people i know from a track, altho i would love to ask Tim.. if you are reading this :-D if there isnt any chance at all to change the name of this topic to simply general F1 2014, as the McLaren is no longer the only discused team now, i cant find any option from my end as a topic creater

Esteve Rueda said:
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Interesting stuff, but as you say, if you dont have it safe, make it safe.

Im quite suprised that RB is using Renault units this year, as i believe RB is the team with the highest budgets of them all, not that Renaults would be bad units i suppose, but it robs you of the chance of being ahead in this area from all other Renualt engine using teams
 
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Anybody else look at the fuel delivery pressure called out in the regulations for 2014?
It's insanely high at 500 bars...that 7350 psi.
 
Just seen the toro rosso nose, its like a bad porno... this is year is best year for durex and dildo companys to step in and promote them self in best way ever in motorsport.

"To finish first and safe use durex"
 
Ye Dildo companies can now promote that its their shape that the best teams use to ensure the smoothest go

Lets stop talking porno now pls :) Please keep sending the new pictures you discover around net
 
I'm going to bet that the rules makers, did not foresee, or think that these, noses, penii, and vagii would be the result. I think they thought the front would dip down like the cars had in 2006 or so.
These noses look bad, and frankly, could be dangerous.
 
Nah just meant the level of maturity on this thread. :)

Comparing F1 cars to animals and human genitals... Well.
 
I believe there is unlimited turbo boost allowed, however the catch is that there is a severe restriction on fuel flow that's why even with unlimited turbo boost you won't see very high power, the 15,000 rpm limit doesn't help either.

FIA is a joke, but at least engines are FINALLY open to compete against one another instead of the "spec, almost equal" engines all the teams had from 2007 to end of 2013. That was truly distgusting. An engine freeze and not only a freeze but also during the "freeze" period allowing special permissions for certain teams to to update/modify/improve their engines because they weren't as good as some other engines. WHAT A JOKE.

The 2007-2013 engine "freeze" was one of the most pathetic, distgusting and disgraceful regulations EVER to be put forth in Formula 1.

Imagine a "spec" body/aero freeze where everyone was limited to almost the exact same amount of downforce, and they were only allowed to develop the car through chassis/suspension and engine. Or, imagine a chassis/suspension/inner mechanics "freeze" where every car had the same chassis, suspension, transmission, etc. parts and layout, and they were only allowed to develop the engine itself and the aero aspect of the body....

HEY FIA, WHAT WERE YOU SMOKING?
 
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FINALLY Mercedes with a normal non "man schlong" nose, red bulls doesn't look too bad either.
 
New Mercedes:
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New Redbull:
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Force India:
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Judging by the difference in noses so far I bet that race one they look totally different.
 
That redBull is one of the best looking noses, maybe even a winner so far, Mercedes looks same as Fiat?

Ok so.. again whole galleries of the new cars (this web is bloody awesome hehe)

RB: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/01/28/red-bull-rb10-first-pictures/

Merc: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/01/28/mercedes-w05-first-pictures/

(looks way better than fiat)

Force India: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/01/28/force-india-vjm07-pictures-revealed/

And our FIAT on the track before it broke down and was taken away by recovery truck

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Lewis leaving pits, the sound if awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8o9JlP1BFg
 
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Nelson said:
mercedes looks best :eek:

caterham and marussia are still missing
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Marussia havent yet arrived to Jerez (thats where the first run is taking place right now) because they had some issues, but they say they are on their way as they solved it
 
zzbusch said:
I'm going to bet that the rules makers, did not foresee, or think that these, noses, penii, and vagii would be the result. I think they thought the front would dip down like the cars had in 2006 or so.
These noses look bad, and frankly, could be dangerous.
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Yea zz.. I agree - only positive thing for me is the humour around it, as they look so ridiculous that it's funny ..they should rename it this year: Formula Penii
 
Lewis badly crashed, he is fine, but the car is gone, its confirmed that it was Cars failure, it seems that the front wing fell off and Lewis couldnt do anything
 
Torro Rosso and Force India has the most ugliest fronts atm imo. Mercedes is the best looking car so far. Red Bull is quite dull (as is Vettel :p)
 
Here is a video guys so you can hear it, mind you he is not reving it to the limits

 
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